Rachel Maddow yesterday talked with Ellen DeGeneres about this political season, same-sex marriage, Clinton Eastwood’s chair, Ellen’s claim that Michelle Obama did “cheat” during their push-ups contest, and gangnam style, among other issues.

“Imagine that Christmas happened only once every four years in your life, then you would be a pundit,” Rachel Maddow said. “If you care about politics like I do because you care about people competing about different ideas for what the country should do, 60 million people watch these guys fight about that in the debates,” Maddow told Ellen DeGeneres. “That’s awesome. It’s Democracy Christmas. I love it.”